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A fan wants to know the best way to ensure that NASA gets the funding it needs, and the answer doesn’t fit into a sound bite. In this thoughtful conversation, Bill Nye, the CEO of the Planetary Society, and former NASA astronaut Mike Massimino tell Eugene Mirman that the answer is less about stubborn legislators and science illiteracy, and more about increasing public awareness of the value we get from NASA and the space program, from international cooperation to the innovation and optimism that comes from the problem solving aspect of space exploration. That, and voting.